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Title: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Millman on 2017-10-12 05:06:32
Hi everyone!  Do any of you put your bike in neutral on the side stand and start it up to let it warm up before you ride?  I did this yesterday and noticed a lot of exhaust vapor and smell from the bike. Temp was about 50f and damp outside. Just wondering if this is normal. I haven't done this before.

Greg


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Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: T6pilot on 2017-10-12 05:16:59
Generally climb on bike, hit the starter, then put on helmet and gloves. About a minute before riding off, easy on rpms till temp gauge shows some heat
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: GDD on 2017-10-12 06:22:29
Never.

Fuel injected motors should not need "warming up", but if it makes you happy....
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Our Gee on 2017-10-12 07:45:03
Same as GDD, never, no need, pointless.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Pickaxe on 2017-10-12 11:21:45
You should warm an engine up as quickly as possible without revving it hard before its reached normal operating temperature. Best way is to ride it ASAP after starting it.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Millman on 2017-10-12 12:35:05
Yes I normally climb on and get going. Just thought the smoke was moisture because of the temp and wet conditions. Thanks.


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Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Taz on 2017-10-13 07:51:07
Many times I have read advice that said start the engine and let it idle for 30 seconds so that the oil circulates around the engine. Then ride it but do not rev it to the red line until the engine has fully warmed up.


Works for me.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Our Gee on 2017-10-13 08:19:06
We used to have a nearby neighbour who's early morning routine was to push his Jap 1000cc Multi complete with aftermarket end can out of his garage dressed in slippers etc, start the engine then retire back inside to appear again about 10 minutes later all kitted up and ready to go. This seriously pissed off just about everyone within a couple of hundred yards. I diplomatically approached him to point out the annoyance he is causing to his neighbours and his reply was something like "sorry mate, but you have to let the oil get around the engine you know". Still, as the saying goes, "ignorance is bliss" (no offence intended to anyone contributing to this thread).
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: David. on 2017-10-13 10:34:11
Warming up the engine before starting off must be a throw back to the 80's & Japanese multi-cylinder bikes.

My 1980 Yamaha XJ650 certainly needs to be "warmed up" before riding.

The Owner's Manual states, "To get maximum engine life, always "warm-up" the engine before starting off. Never accelerate hard with a cold engine!"

"To see whether or not the engine is warm, see if engine responds to throttle normally with the starter lever (CHOKE) turned off".

To this end, I always start the bike, let it warm up until the choke can be fully closed & responds to the throttle.

Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Levisp on 2017-10-13 10:46:08
We used to have a nearby neighbour who's early morning routine was to push his Jap 1000cc Multi complete with aftermarket end can out of his garage dressed in slippers etc, start the engine then retire back inside to appear again about 10 minutes later all kitted up and ready to go. This seriously pissed off just about everyone within a couple of hundred yards. I diplomatically approached him to point out the annoyance he is causing to his neighbours and his reply was something like "sorry mate, but you have to let the oil get around the engine you know". Still, as the saying goes, "ignorance is bliss" (no offence intended to anyone contributing to this thread).


Maybe a different approach would be get on his bike and ride off ! 10 minutes later come back and point out if you had been a real thief then he would have lost his bike and the insurance company would not have paid out. Sorry but leaving a bike unattended with the keys in is just bloody stupid. Twat !
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: ITB on 2017-10-13 19:12:46
Switch on.
Wait for tach/speedo needle dance.
Push starter.
1st gear.
Ride off.

Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: gogs01 on 2017-10-13 20:45:36
Switch on.
Wait for tach/speedo needle dance.
Push starter.
1st gear.
Ride off.
Works for me.
I haven't done the warm up thing since my bikes had choke levers and kick starts - and then it was the bare minimum, just to make sure it wasn't going to die on me at the first junction.
For boxers with separate gearboxes, warming up makes even less sense since everything else needs to get up to temperature too, so getting under way as soon as possible is the way to go - just take it easy for the first five minutes.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: simbo on 2017-10-13 22:08:22
Old habits die hard  :)  I like to rev the shit out of my Harley whilst it warms up too, that really annoys the neighbours  ;)  I just leave the mutt on the drive in case any theives or grumpy folk come round lol.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Blueboy on 2017-10-14 01:00:19
Works for me.
I haven't done the warm up thing since my bikes had choke levers and kick starts - and then it was the bare minimum, just to make sure it wasn't going to die on me at the first junction.
For boxers with separate gearboxes, warming up makes even less sense since everything else needs to get up to temperature too, so getting under way as soon as possible is the way to go - just take it easy for the first five minutes.
Best answer !


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Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: JBnAZ on 2017-10-14 06:49:40
The thought that came to mind was, from what temperature is the bike starting from? If it's seriously cold, yes, warm up the bike a bit to allow the lubricants and other fluids to warm up some.


If it's not seriously cold there is no need for any extended warm up period.


With that context, I let my bike idle for 30 or so seconds and I don't romp on the throttle until the motor is fully up to operating temps.


The next question may be how to warm it up. Riding gently is equally effective as is letting it idle in my opinion.


BTW, I treat all my vehicles in the same manner, not just the RT.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Pickaxe on 2017-10-14 13:20:35

The thought that came to mind was, from what temperature is the bike starting from? If it's seriously cold, yes, warm up the bike a bit to allow the lubricants and other fluids to warm up some.


If it's not seriously cold there is no need for any extended warm up period.


With that context, I let my bike idle for 30 or so seconds and I don't romp on the throttle until the motor is fully up to operating temps.


The next question may be how to warm it up. Riding gently is equally effective as is letting it idle in my opinion.


BTW, I treat all my vehicles in the same manner, not just the RT.


An engine warms up far quicker if it's doing work and not idling. This will improve mpg and decrease engine wear rate.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Old-Git on 2017-10-15 09:58:49
Engine on, 1 minute idling while I put helmet / glasses / gloves on, then ride off.
But then I wait a few miles before working the engine hard, so that the oil is properly warmed up. I do this in all my vehicles. Possibly not necessary with modern oils I guess, probably shows how old I am tho.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Blueboy on 2017-10-15 14:39:45
Engine on, 1 minute idling while I put helmet / glasses / gloves on, then ride off.
But then I wait a few miles before working the engine hard, so that the oil is properly warmed up. I do this in all my vehicles. Possibly not necessary with modern oils I guess, probably shows how old I am tho.
Exactly what I do!


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Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Terry_RT on 2017-10-15 19:19:51
I always ignite the bike, before ride her up. I then put helmet and gloves on and then ride. About 30'' or so.. Then I don't rev up until hot enough in the gauge.

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Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: T6pilot on 2017-10-16 00:18:59
I’ll stick with letting a cold engine have a minute to circulate all the fluids and start warming up before I ride off, then easy on throttle till one or more bars on temp gauge
Somehow I remember hearing your greatest amount of wear occurs when you first start a cold engine and you should let those moving parts get settled in before accelerating
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: ITB on 2017-10-16 16:07:58
...Possibly not necessary with modern oils I guess...


+1


Agreed modern oils cling to parts when cold. Oil circulation starts with the first revolution so no need to sit idling after startup and nothing in the owner's manual mentions waiting for a warmup before riding off.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Taz on 2017-10-16 17:57:50
Each to his own. We all have our own preferences it seems, and that’s what makes the world go around.


Happy riding.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Ganesh on 2017-10-18 17:36:37
Interesting about the oil circulation as the oil level is taken after the engine has been running and up to temperature, then switching it off and leaving for about 5 minutes. It suggests that the oil has to settle back into the sump. How much is then left covering the moving parts? Mine doesn't work well to a very cold engine as the throttle at low revs becomes a bit lumpy, I suppose this could be down to the piston temperatures not having reached optimum for ignition and the ecu is compensating by making the mix rich.
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: Sprintgull on 2017-10-18 19:26:30
I'm in the 'start-up, put on my helmet and gloves, then ride' camp.  As the roads around home are residential for a while whichever way I go, the temp gauge is well on its way to normal by the time I'm out of the 30mph limit.  So the bike gets an easy ride for a few minutes.  After that though.......
Title: Re: Warming Up Before Riding
Post by: pkpilot on 2017-10-18 21:41:34
I'm in the 'start-up, put on my helmet and gloves, then ride' camp.  As the roads around home are residential for a while whichever way I go, the temp gauge is well on its way to normal by the time I'm out of the 30mph limit.  So the bike gets an easy ride for a few minutes.  After that though.......
+1


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